The Bible makes it clear that Satan was the most beautiful and powerful being ever created. He was the supreme archangel, surpassing heavyweights like Gabriel and Michael. No red suits, pitchforks, or horns for this guy – he was, and probably still is, drop dead gorgeous.
He also may have been the first worship leader.
The idea that Satan was a master musician comes from Ezekiel 28:13. The New King James Version of the Bible (NKJV), speaking of Satan, says, “The workmanship of your timbrels and pipes was prepared for you on the day you were created.”
Modern music history seems to support the idea that Satan has profound musical ability. It’s not a hard to imagine a supernatural being helping artists create beats and melodies we humans find irresistable. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that artists who promote things contrary to the Bible often enjoy a meteoric, even supernatural rise.
All that seems to make sense, but what proof, if any, do we have that Satan is musically gifted or if he was a worship leader in Heaven before his fall?
Let’s go to the Bible and find out.
Biblical Clues about Satan’s Musical Ability
Some clues about Satan’s role arise if you examine the word “workmanship” in Ezekiel 28. Elsewhere in the Bible the word is translated “work”, as in labor, job, skill, or even profession. Genesis 2:2 uses the same Hebrew word: “And on the seventh day God ended his work.” (KJV) Proverbs 18:9 says, “He who is slothful in his work is a brother to him who is a great destroyer.” (NKJV) These and many other OT examples hint that Ezekiel is talking about not just God’s handiwork in creating Satan, but Satan’s official role.
This is where things get a little tougher to determine. The words in Ezekiel 28:13 “timbrels and pipes” are translated “settings and mountings” in the NIV and “settings and engravings” in the RSV. These translations and most others seem to let the air out of the Satan-as-worship-leader theory.
But because I take all translations with a grain of salt, I want to see if I could dig up any clues from the original language.
The word rendered “timbrels” and “tabrets” – toph in Hebrew – most certainly refers to a musical instrument. The word appears in Exodus 15:20: “Then Miriam the prophetess, the sister of Aaron, took the timbrel in her hand; and all the women went out after her with timbrels and with dances.” (NKJV)
There’s no ambiguity to this term. I can’t imagine Miriam dancing to the lovely sound of “settings.” Even the NIV, which translates toph as “settings” in Ezekiel, translates it “timbrels” in Exodus. Now you can see why I don’t take any translation as Gospel – so to speak.
The next word rendered “pipes” by the KJV and NKJV is a bit tougher nut to crack. First of all, this verse in Ezekiel is the only place in the entire Bible that translators bother to come up with an English word for it. The Hebrew word – neqeb – appears elsewhere only in Joshua, but translators simply sound out in English – “Nekeb” – because it’s the name of a location. So we can’t even use other contexts within Bible itself to determine the true meaning.
Strong’s concordance defines the Hebrew word as a jeweller’s term – a setting, socket, or hole for a gem. This interpretation falls in line with the first part of Ezekiel 28:13 that talks about the myriad of precious stones with which Satan is adorned.
There are three apparent justifications for the KJV and NKJV translation “pipes”: 1) the term directly preceding is certainly a musical term, and; 2) the word can mean “cavern” or something hollow (think wind instrument), or; 3) it could come from a root word meaning “to bore through”, a pipe being a likely candidate.
In short, there are two valid arguments for and against the idea that Satan was a music leader in Heaven. I’ll present the two points of view and you can choose which one you believe.
The Argument For Satan as Worship Leader
The verse in Ezekiel names a musical instrument, “timbrels”, a musical term used throughout the Old Testament. Immediately following the word, is another word that is quite possibly another musical term.
The Ezekiel account could likely mean, “Satan, you have been prepared for an occupation using praise tambourines and pipes.”
The Argument Against Satan as Worship Leader
The verse contains one musical term buried within a gem-related context. The preceding portion of Ezekiel 28:13 says “every precious stone was your covering.” (NKJV) Most translations render a word that generally means “tambourines” as “settings” in this instance because it seems to flow with the theme.
Ezekiel is probably using the image of tambourines to describe the extravagance of Satan’s beauty: He is so laden with jewels that he is like tambourine fixed not with cheap metal pieces but with jewels.
Satan as Worship Leader – Does it Matter?
Whether or not Satan was in charge of music before he fell from glory is probably of little consequence. The real takeaway is why he fell — pride.
The reason I tend to think of Satan as a former worship leader is the powerful connection between music and pride. I can’t imagine any other skill that would make a created being so full of himself as to think he could overthrow God himself.
While at a lesser scale, worship leaders are susceptible to similar mistakes. Each week our voices are amplified and we sing cool songs and get thanks and “nice-jobs” from congregants. Especially talented worship leaders leave the church altogether to follow careers in the mainstream market. According to VH1, Usher, Katy Perry, John Legend, Carrie Underwood and many others started in church.
Not saying that these artists are the devil – indeed many keep their standards and make a positive impression on the mainstream market. The point is, there is a lot of personal glory to be had for excellent musicians. That fact could be just the lasting legacy of the first musician in the universe – Satan himself.
Tim Lucas has been leading worship for more than 20 years around the Pacific Northwest, USA. Starting as a worship leader at the age of 15, he has ministered to churches, youth groups, and camps, locally and as far away as Australia. Tim now leads worship at his local church and lives in Washington State with his wife, Laura, and two kids. Sign up for email updates about new posts, worship advice, and new worship songs below.
I have spoken on the topic of Saran being in charge of entertaining God. Satan’s pride got the best of him and he thought he was better than God and that he should be in charge of heaven, so God cast him out along with a third of the angels. Now, consider this, the entertainment industry a multi trillion dollar industry that encompasses music, movies, television, sports and yes our modern day churches sort to say. Look at all of the Godless ideas, movies, music, actions that come from most in the industry. They are promoting sin in all its forms and we are paying them to do it. I fully believe that Satan is very much still in charge of the entertainment industry
I believe that a Bible passage that should be considered along with Isaiah 14:12-16 and Ezekiel 28:12-18 is Job 38:4-7 as the LORD addresses Job:
“Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding. Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it? Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof; (Job 38:7 KJV) When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
Notice that this is at the time when God laid the foundation of the earth when he created it, cross reference Genesis 1:1. The book of Job is the oldest book in the Bible. The events in chp. 38:4-7 are the beginning of creation. The morning stars/ sons of God (angels) were there shouting for joy when God created the earth in the beginning. Notice that the Bible also says the morning stars SANG TOGETHER during the morning of creation, with Lucifer as their heavenly choir director (Isaiah 14:12).
I think with secular music, the biggest thing is that you just need to be careful because some music can really get into your head that does not need to be there. There are many different studies that show that music can effect your mood positively or negatively. Also different people have different levels of what they can handle verses what they can’t handle. Therefore, some people need to be more careful than others. A song that has no negative impact on one person, might have a terrible impact on another person.
Thank you very much Tim for taking your time to write about this, i really do appreciate. i teach teens in our Sunday school and it helps to have this information
Blessed Love. Very informative. I do give thanks.
There are 12 notes that can be played on an instrument. The piano is an instrument that only 12 notes but with multiple octaves, same with the guitar and almost every instrument.
The number 12 is very significant in the bible, some examples are the 12 disciples, the 12 tribes of Judah and many more
The word “timbre” is a word commonly used in music production.
It’s definition is “the character or quality of a musical sound or voice as distinct from its pitch and intensity.”
Source: Google
It basically means the tone of an instrument. Think of a piano composition being played softly as and as the song progresses the keys being played harder resulting in a louder, aggressive tone and distortion. This is example of the piano being played at different “timbres”.
Pipes could easily be referring to the pipes on an organ (instrument) or a woodwind such as a flute or clarinet.
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Also lost in consideration of all of this is the fact that we’ve recently discovered thanks to the tip of the scientific spear, that celestial bodies and even bodies of light ring and hum at frequencies beyond our Sphere of Perception, meaning, that the universe is always signing the praise and glory of God merely by existing. Faith is what allows one to see and perceive truth as it swirls out, about around and above them.
I could certainly see he whom God cast out as being musically gifted, I could also see him recognizing the gift of Music from God as being pleasing and desired of God and in turn committing himself to the perversion thereof, to the point that those whom partake and create among the most popular of us too often do so in the interest of themselves, falling into the Lucifer trap of self-servitude.
Pride happens when you have too many fans and sycophants around you to edify you because of your appeal and performance. this is why most mucisians,movie actors and even celebrity Christian preachers become human Gods. Eg; Gideon, Jesus, Paul- they all retreated when people wanted to make them king or God and it needs much grace to do so.
Great point. True ministers point all the glory to God.
Yep, makes perfect sense that he was a musician/singer even, I’m pretty sure EL-vis or his manager new this as-well, for the outfits of Elvis were of “every precious stone.”
I never thought of that but Elvis sure did wear a lot of rhinestones etc on his outfits.
Dang homie you’re smart. You get it. Very nicely put
Thanks! It must be so difficult for a musician to remain humble when God gives them amazing gifts and talents! I pray for all our leaders and influencers 🙏❤️
how many voices was satan singing at once
I don’t know but he may not have been confined to human abilities. Maybe he could sing a 4-part harmony in 5 octaves all at once, above and below the human range of hearing.
Good point,I mean after all God created him with extraordinary abilities, but what more could this magnificent angel Lucifer that God created possibly want? I mean he had it going on, wisdom, beauty, riches, respect, admiration, & he threw all of that away thinking that he, a mere created being, could be God Almighty, what a waste!
I have to interject on one point. Satan is his name, not Lucifer. Lucifer is the name given to a king of Babylon in the Old Testament. During the Bible’s translation from Hebrew to Latin to English it was incorrectly assumed that it was attached to the angel. There are many reasons I point this out. One of them though, is that there is power in a name. If you are to call on someone or rebuke them, you’d probably better know that name. With all respect.
Personally I have a large interest in these origins. I grew up Pentecostal and while I am appreciative that I know God, there was a lot of damage done. So now I am searching and learning what is God and what is Man. If that makes sense.
I’m saying this so that you know that I come from a place of sincerity. God Bless.
I’m not seeing what you see in this verse Ezekiel 28:13. It tells you he had a lot of jewelry
Yes, there are a lot of variations between translations. Translators are unsure of the meaning of some Hebrew words, so they often make their best guess.
I think Christians use guessing
and the satan/musician story to say that we can only listen to Christian music. Please someone say what the Bible says about not listening to secular music. Some people not labeled have interesting things to say in secular music but I never got to listen to any secular music when I was a kid. I love Christian music and worship but I have a hard time demonizing ALL things secular. I never found the scripture that says I will go to hell for listening to something cool.
I tend to agree with you. There are many things to learn from non-Christian artists. The funny thing is that a lot of them got their start in the church! Often, they weave spiritual truths into their songs even.
Of course, you speak from an American perspective.
I know many of the Black singers have church background but I am uncertain about their White counterparts.
I would agree with Evangeline McDonald, there has been a trend in Christian circles to demonize ALL secular music as if every single musician out there is a devil worshipper, which is not the case. To a greater extent, in the past more than nowadays, many inspired artists wrote wonderful ballads about nature, the passing of time, the folly of men, love and friendship, death, marriage, getting old, traveling, etc. Some songs brought joy, others made one thoughtful while others made you want to dance.
I recognise that the music that is being served today to the public targets young people, and it is mostly trash and demonic, as a reflection of our decadent society. That tells us a lot about the people’s spirit –from the top to the bottom of the ladder of those who work in the music industry. The diversity in rhythms, themes, vocal ranges (contralto, baritone, bass, mezzo soprano, etc.) originality, vocal lineups (quartet, group, duet), and instrumental and vocal deliveries of the mid-twentieth century to the 1990s is dead and gone. To be generous, I’ll stretch it to the end of the twentieth century.
Notwithstanding, Christian churches have the duty to warn their church members against secular music as God himself had given the command to the People of Israel against adopting anything ungodly from the nations around them. Wisdom applies.
Isaiah ch 14 expounds on Lucifer more explicitly. God bless
Maybe I misread this verse but I don’t see where Ezekiel 28:13 talks about Lucifer being a master musician. Could this be a mixup?
NKJV says “The workmanship of your timbrels and pipes was prepared for you on the day you were created.” Some versions translate it differently. But the NKJV, at least, seems to think that this passage is talking about musical instruments.
Timbrels and pipes are the key words.
However, it doesn’t state that he led worship, only that he is very musically knowledgeable.
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” for this guy – he was, and probably still is, drop dead gorgeous.”
quite disturbing you believe the figures in the bible to be gender-based and human. I bet you believe the bible is also historical right?
I’m communicating in a way we understand. We can’t imagine 12,000 colors vibrating in 10 dimensions simultaneously (we only know 4 dimensions) but we can imagine Brad Pitt with horns, so I went that direction.
It is historical and 100% true.
I’ve heard of Satan being a musical masterpiece back in the 80’s. I listened to a sermon recorded by the Eagles nest. I forget who the pastor was. The name of it was called Rock a Bye, Bye Baby…lots of back masking in the music. And heck so much of our music today is all about sex, crime, filth, etc. Mainstream music is pretty disgusting. It’s just pure evil…God Bless you
Yes, today’s artists don’t bother back-masking. They just say it.
Yes I agree with you. Satan is the master of music. That’s why when you hear music that doesn’t speak of rebellion it’s usually garbage.
Well this question seen to be more technical in answering cause the entire Bible being translated from Hebrew to Greek and than English to various languages has , some essential information has been omitted so only the spirit of the living God can answer said question.
I must agree with Par:
The Father has created everything. Satan only uses preexisting materials.
The Father would have created music, and been the first musician, as all worship is inspired by the Holy Spirit.
In don’t think just because you give the enemy some glittery tambourines (he was vain after all) that suddenly he becomes the director of the choir. He most certainly ain’t no James Cleveland.
I’m not sure why in Christian culture we try to magnify this little prick who was defeated on Calvary, that we renounce and can tell him off in Jesus’ name, who in the final round in Armageddon comes in heavy full of pestilence, only to be finally snuffed by one breath from our beautiful Saviour.
More like he’s the director of attempted diversion, the false belief in individualism, and a meritocratic approach to knowing God (based on shame and condemnation)
God Bless!!
Satan is also referred to as the star of day or star/Angel of Dawn or barer of light. His true name given by God when an Angel of God was Beliel. Barer of light. Is this not correct? I understand the Bible is very confusing at times especially when the literal and the symbolic terminologies meld together at many points. It can be hard to decipher. I still know very little myself in comparison to what I could. Also due to different translations by different nations. If anyone could explain why this scripture about Satan being the star of day Angel of Dawn barer of light…should not be given as input to what his role was when he was intact morally and spiritually amongst God and his angels in Heaven? Thank you
The association of Satan with the terms “star of day,” “star/angel of dawn,” or “bearer of light” is a mix of biblical interpretation, religious tradition, and linguistic nuances.
In the Christian tradition, Satan is often associated with Lucifer. The name “Lucifer” means “light-bringer” or “morning star” and is derived from the Latin words “lux” (light) and “ferre” (to bring). This association primarily comes from a passage in the Book of Isaiah (Isaiah 14:12-15) in the Bible, which mentions a figure called “morning star” (or “Lucifer” in the Latin Vulgate translation) falling from heaven. However, the original context of this passage is a taunt against a fallen Babylonian king, not necessarily a reference to Satan.
The name “Beliel” (or “Belial”) is another name used in Christian and Jewish texts, often representing wickedness or lawlessness. However, this name is not typically associated with the “morning star” or “light-bringer” concept.
Over time, Christian tradition and popular culture have blended these names and concepts, leading to various interpretations. Satan’s role and characteristics, as depicted in religious texts, can indeed be complex and subject to interpretation, especially when considering symbolic language and the influence of translations and cultural contexts.
Regarding why certain scriptures or interpretations focus on Satan’s role before his fall, it’s often part of a theological exploration of themes like pride, rebellion, and the nature of evil. In Christian theology, these discussions can serve to understand the moral and spiritual lessons from the texts.
Yes, it’s terribly interesting that Cain’s descendants seemed to be very worldly, skilled musicians and builders of cities..
Interestingly I had never heard this about Satan/Lucifer until our pastor spoke on this a few months ago. I have been raised in the church and attended faithfully for the last 50 years. Our pastor had a unique perspective on Lucifer’s role as worship leader. When he fell, God didn’t reinstate a worship leader. Instead he created…us for that role. What do you think of that?
Amazing theory! I have not heard of that explanation before but it makes total sense. Maybe that’s why Satan is always against us. We took his role!!
Amen! 🙏🏼👏🏼🙌🏼🔥
Where is this verse. Lucifer wings make 7 different awesome noise for god?
I haven’t heard of that verse.
Could you help me understand what happened to the instruments of worship Lucifer was given by God when he was thrown out of heaven? Was his gifts as worship leader given to the church? I appreciate your biblical view point and if you can give me any scriptures that supports this view.
Thank you.
Alicia
It’s certainly a possibility that God gave Satan’s role as worship leader to people. That’s probably why Satan is always against us. He’s still mad that we took his spot. I don’t think there’s a verse for that, but it’s an interesting theory.
Also, satan is against us, the human creation of God, who were created by God to worship the LORD, God because satan knows that he himself will never have the opportunity to repent again… As we humans do every day we breathe….the very breath of God in our lungs is an opportunity to repent and a second chance to surrender and to submit to our Lord and savior, Jesus Christ and his Holy Spirit. As God breathes his breath into our lungs…. We pour out his praise 🙏🏼👏🏼🙌🏼🔥
Satan, can’t stand this. So he tries everything he can to corrupt our heart’s desire for the Lord, and to trade this desire for the evil desires to love the things of the world and sin.
“Be sober, be vigilant because your adversary, the devil, as a roaring lion, walk it about, seeking whom he may devour.”1 Peter 5:8
“Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.”
James 4:7 ESV
“Delight yourself in the Lord, and he will give you the desires of your heart.”
Psalm 37:4 ESV
**THE BLOOD 🩸 OF JESUS CHRIST IS AGAINST YOU satan!
TO GOD BE THE GLORY AND THE HONOR AND THE POWER AND PRAISE FOR EVER AND EVER HALLELUJAH… AMEN.
🙏🏼👏🏼🙌🏼🩸🔥❤️I
Hey Alicia.
My answer would be, he still has the gifts.
Romans 11:29 For God’s gifts and His call are irrevocable. [He never withdraws them when once they are given, and He does not change His mind about those to whom He gives His grace or to whom He sends His call.]
But what actually changed is the assignment to which he was going to apply those gifts to serve was removed.
He is still knowledgeable and wise but the power thereof was removed from him by Christ when he went to hell and made public show of him.
But he still has gifts and he can use them to do any other thing except worship of the most high.
The authority was removed from him that’s why the angel Michael who was lower than him in rank threw him down.
But by giftings, he is still in his rank that’s why we don’t address him as human beings, we address as spirit beings who are in the authority of Christ Our Lord
Well research and simply explained. He had something to do with music. Ezekiel 28 is unmistakable about that.
That’s right! Amen. 🙏🏼👏🏼🙌🏼🔥
great read. thank you!
Thanks for the article. I was listening to a man preach on the subject of Lucifer having pipes and a great voice and how Cains offspring were the musicians. He had a very convincing argument. I am almost 50 years old and have never even thought or cared about Lucifer and pre-existence job. I can see both sides of your argument very well. I have been studying the scriptures for many years and its just crazy that I never thought of this. Thanks for sharing the article. It was a great eye opener.
Thank you. It is fun for me to dive into obscure biblical topics and see what’s really in there!
Know this was published a while ago, but satan is not lucifer. The word lucifer is an adjective used by Isaiah to describe the King of Babylon. Study that scripture carefully, then you will understand
This is correct, however, the Bible refers to human rulers and spiritual rulers simultaneously. In this passage, he is referring to the king of Babylon, but also the spiritual power behind him. Both the king of Babylon and Satan said:
‘I will ascend into heaven,
I will exalt my throne above the stars of God;
I will also sit on the mount of the congregation
On the farthest sides of the north;
I will ascend above the heights of the clouds,
I will be like the Most High.’
The same happens in Ezekiel 28, only this time, it’s the king of Tyre:
“Son of man, take up a lamentation for the king of Tyre, and say to him, ‘Thus says the Lord God:
“You were the seal of perfection,
Full of wisdom and perfect in beauty.
You were in Eden, the garden of God;
Was the king of Tyre really in Eden? No way. This is an undisputable reference to Satan, even though the passage is to “the king of Tyre”. The king of Tyre is both the physical king, but also the spiritual king, Satan himself. Here yet again, the Bible is speaking to two individuals at once, but only parts of it apply to the individual it’s speaking to on the surface.
I don’t think this is conclusive. I came here hoping to find a scripture reference other than Ez. 28:13 to justify the doctrinal idea that Heylel (not “Lucifer”… that’s just a Latin replacement for the Hebrew “Heylel”) was a musician.
That very verse itself in context has no precedent for music nor a follow-up. It’s all about vain ornamentation and enhancement of beauty via precious stones. It further alludes to the fact that the devil traded or made a “multitude of trafficking”… which would make sense with precious stones and the like. Also, traded with who? Clearly angels and those who dwell in Heaven. Probably fooled them into thinking the shiny stone in their possession was less valuable than the one he had, and unfairly traded as business men do today.
Music is but merely a tool to make money for those in power today, and money *keeps* them in power. “The love for money is the root of all evil”, not ‘the love for music’.
I find it curious that people focus so much on those two words (tabrets and pipes, even though “pipes” is referring to “gem sockets” etc. as you already stated) and dismiss the context and the premise that the devil was perfect in beauty, and thought so highly of himself that the only logical step to take was to make himself even more beautiful via vain adornments as he literally decked himself with precious stones.
The music bit is very farfetched, in my opinion. Not to mention the “tabrets/timbrel/tambourine” bit can also be translated as “rhythmic beating”, like that of a hammer used to make said punctures for the precious stones, for example.
It’s troubling for me to think that many find it easier to ascribe that scriptural passage to music from those two little words and not simply to ornamentation or “bling” given the insane amount of context for it.
I do appreciate the time you took to do this though. It’s definitely worth discussing.
Thank you so much for discussing this topic. I have been deliberating over this with a few of my pastors and I guess it really is just a matter what you believe to be the truth. I personally don’t believe that he was that praise leader. I do believe that he was created to reflect the glory of God in all of His glory and splendor. It’s amazing how we can interject our own thoughts and propose our own scenarios but the word of God is clear and we must be careful not to add or take away from it, like the movie industry does.
Good conversation for those seeking truth. Let’s be mindful to remain humble and teachable.
Thanks again
Modern day Prophet , E. G .White , passed in 1915 , indicates Satan role as music leader in the Sanctuary in Heaven mentioned in NT , Hebrews and Revelation . Prophet for all , SDA recognize , all other believers invited too . Also mention Ark of Covenant and Testimony clearly pointing to Ten Commandments, including fourth , Seventh-day Sabbath . Rev: 11:19 , 15:5 , 12:17, 14:12, 22:14. 14:7, to name several .
Another thing to share to my interested friends is that Jesus Christ is Michael the Archangel in Scripture . Not going to defend here any of this , please feel free to get together with some Seventh- day Adventist theology and heed message in Rev 18:1-5 to come out of Babylon ( confusion) . Humbly I share my journey out of Babylon . Marantha Eccl :12:13, Psalm 119 , Book of Acts clearly shows what day NT Church kept in Asia as well as Europe …
Actually
The FATHER HIMSELF,was the first musician.
“The Bible makes it clear that Satan was the most beautiful and powerful being ever created.”
No, the Bible makes it clear that Lucifer was. You just might as well delete this whole article for it is incorrect from the start, and thus also the premise of Lucifer being head musician of Heaven. The reference to Lucifer falling begins at Isaiah 12 How you have fallen from heaven, morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations! – NOT 11.
Thanks. Will look into this.
Where does it ever say in scripture that angels sing or make music as part of their worship? It doesn’t. People do a LOT of singing, as explicitly stated in scripture, but angels ALWAYS “say” or “shout”.
A passage in job mentions the “morning stars sing together” His praise, but the entire passage is about the awesomeness of God in Creation, and scholars agree that it’s not clear whether this refers to some celestial beings or literally the stars themselves attesting to the glory of God.
The angels worshipped of course! But no mention of music.
Thanks for the comment. It’s definitely a study I’ll have to undertake — whether angels sing in the Bible or not. I think it’s worth a word look at how “say” and “shout” are translated. You could very well be right!
Please, I was thoroughly enjoying this study and you were not wavering.
“Do not let people sway what God has given you to say!”
NEVER compromise. You are backing up and you don’t need to. When God’s Word is heard, the Holy Spirit will lead. Just like in Salvation. You must be lead by the Holy Spirit first….
Don’t let some of these comments tempt you into discarding your studies or shame you into confrontation. “Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the Word of Truth”.
Luke 8:17 says, “For nothing is hidden that will not be made manifest, nor is anything secret that will not be known and come to light.”
Studies like the one you posted causes others to search for answers. When people respond with hostility, anger or rudeness, that isn’t of God. Not everyone that says, “Lord, Lord will enter the kingdom of heaven.”
The appeal of the Bible is universal and is addressed to all humanity. It is a Book that everyone can understand. This doesn’t mean that everyone will understand It or that any one person will understand everything in It. Neither does It mean a person will understand It the first time they read It. However, the more a person reads It, the more the Bible will be understood. The Bible separates humanity into 2 categories. Believers and Non-believers. God will hold everyone responsible as to how they receive His Word, so every person needs to pay close attention to IT’s Message!
Thank you.
Hi Scott, the Bible uses and exchanges the word “say” and “sing” in an indistinctive manner when talking about worshiping or praising God: “Then SANG Deborah and Barak the son of Abinoam on that day, SAYING,” (Judges 5:1) “And they SUNG a new song, SAYING, Thou art worthy to take the book…”(Revelation 5:9) And by the way this verse in revelation also talks about four beasts and elders that are singing, not only humans. So based on these verses, I don’t think is a Biblical conclusion to limit singing only to humans and to assume that angels don’t sing because scripture doesn’t explicitly use the word “singing” like in the following text: “And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying, Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men.” (Luke 2:13-14). God is a musical God (Zephaniah 3:17) and has made his intelligent beings musical beings as well (Matthew 24:31). So I’m having a hard time arriving at your conclusion with all the Biblical evidence. Even parrots can learn to copy and sing songs and many animals have their own songs, so to say that angels (who are created superior to us Psalm 8:5) do not sing as part of their worship and praise to God because the word “sing” is not included seems to me as a bit of a stretch.
hallelujah I have pass through the verse in Eze 28:13, and this these make me clear to belive lucifer was the first praise leader
Ask Mick Jagger. He’s got the inside scoop.
Ha ha. Yes, I bet he does.
So, in other words, satan is the first musician only not a leader like everyone saying.
Because I can’t find it either in the bible about satan being a praise and worship leader. All I can find is his resume in Ezekiel 28:12-17 and Isaiah 14:12-15
(The fall of lucifer) I’m trying to share my experience in leading the praise and worship leader without the anointing of the Holy Spirit and with the anointing of the Holy Spirit. This article is, We are made for praise and worship the not for entertainment.
Thanks for your thoughts, Freddy. I am assuming that any musician in Heaven must have been using that gift to bring worship to God. This was before man or the universe were created, and so music had not yet turned into entertainment. There would have been no concept of music for entertainment at that point, only worship. So my premise is that Satan was the first musician and also the first worship leader.
Ezekiel 28:13-14 says this king was in Eden, and also that he was the head angel. The actual king of Tyre fits neither of these descriptions. The passage is most assuredly referring to Satan himself.
I can agree with the author’s overall conclusion that pride has too much of a role in much of modern music and leadership. This is a problem with worship, as are all things that are sinful – we either worship the God of Israel or we worship ourselves in his place. And this is serious. However, the biblical interpretation of this article is very much uninformed and off-base. Ezekiel 28:13 is a charge against the King of Tyre, and this is not a metaphor for Satan. In fact, the only portrayal of the satan in the Hebrew Bible is in Job, and there is simply not enough to build an entire character profile such as is assumed in the thinking here, especially his place and role in the heavenly court. Historically speaking, the development of the satan into a personal being happened between the testaments. Jesus casually assumes this popular-level understanding, but does not develop it. Simply stated, there is nothing to say the satan was either a) the most beautiful of heaven’s angels, or b) a master musician. There is no support in scripture for this, and this is the foundation for this well-meaning but vastly mis-informed article.